Seba高端鞋架到底用的是什么铝合金?
本帖最后由 ※追風マ少年 于 2016-4-9 19:57 编辑 <br /><br /><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><font size="4"><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">因为自己是学机械专业出身的,现在又是继续金属材料的研究,所以对鞋架特别感兴趣,最近比较有空,拿了个</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">seba</font></span><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">高端的鞋架(钢印号</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">0048660</font></span><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">)去广州有色金属研究院分析测试中心做了个成分分析,随便挑了</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">Mg</font></span><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">、</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">Zn</font></span><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">、</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">Mn</font></span><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">、</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">Cu </font></span><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">几个元素来做分析,得到的结果如下:</span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><font size="4"><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">Mg</font></span><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">:</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">0.58%</font></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><font size="4"><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">Zn</font></span><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">:</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">0.010%</font></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><font size="4"><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">Mn</font></span><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">:</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">0.0048%</font></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><font size="4"><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">Cu</font></span><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">:</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">0.0050%</font></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><font face="Times New Roman" size="5"><span lang="EN-US"></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><font face="Times New Roman" size="5"><span lang="EN-US"></span></font></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'"><font size="4">那么疑问就来了</font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><font size="4"><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">7</font></span><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">系列铝合金是</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">Al-Mg-Zn</font></span><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">系,含有较多的</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">Zn</font></span><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">、</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">Cu</font></span><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">、</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">Mg</font></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><font size="4"><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">查找国家标准(</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">GB/T 6892-2000</font></span><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">)</span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><font size="4"><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">含</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">Zn</font></span><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">最低的</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">7031</font></span><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">铝合金也得达到</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">0.8%</font></span><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">以上</span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><font size="4"><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">而</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">7003</font></span><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">铝合金含</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">Zn</font></span><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">要达到</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">5.0~6.5%</font></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><font size="4"><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">而</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">7004</font></span><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">铝合金含</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">Zn</font></span><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">要达到</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">3.8~4.6%</font></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-US"><p><font face="Times New Roman" size="5"></font></p></span></p><p><font face="Times New Roman" size="5"></font></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><font size="4"><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">很明显成分分析的结果是不符合</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">7</font></span><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">系列铝合金的要求的。</span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><font size="4"></font><span lang="EN-US"><p><font face="Times New Roman" size="4"></font></p></span></p><p><font face="Times New Roman" size="4"></font></p><p><font size="4"></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><font size="4"><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">有趣的是,分析结果和</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">6</font></span><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">系列的铝合金倒比较相符,比如:</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">6005</font></span><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">、</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">6060</font></span><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">之类的</span></font></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><font size="4"><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">仅靠分析的结果,并没有足够的证据判断此鞋架材料是哪个牌号的铝合金,但是可以判断此鞋架材料不是</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">7</font></span><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">系列的铝合金。</span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><font size="4"></font><span lang="EN-US"><p><font face="Times New Roman" size="4"></font></p></span></p><p><font face="Times New Roman" size="4"></font></p><p><font size="4"></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><font size="4"></font><span lang="EN-US"><p><font face="Times New Roman" size="4"></font></p></span></p><p><font face="Times New Roman" size="4"></font></p><p><font size="4"></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><font size="4"><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">Ps</font></span><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">:国标中并没有</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">7000</font></span><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">铝合金的牌号,不知</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">seba</font></span><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">高端鞋架上标的</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">7000</font></span><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">是不是表示</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">7</font></span><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">系列的铝合金,而不是表示</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">7000</font></span><span style="font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:'times new roman';mso-hansi-font-family:'times new roman'">这个牌号?还是有别的什么含义?</span></font></p><p><br /></p>本帖最后由 ※追風マ少年 于 2016-4-9 19:57 编辑 <br /><br /><p><br /></p><p></p><p>首先要怀疑我拿去的是不是seba的高端鞋架</p><p> </p><p>其次要怀疑的是出报告的单位够不够权威</p><p> </p><p>再次要怀疑报告出的是不是准确</p><p> </p><p>最后还要怀疑这个鞋架是不是正品,或者说是不是偶尔出的不合格产品</p><p> 要做的事情还很多呢,呵呵</p><p> </p><p>所以,如有必要,我可以请公证一下,直接给架子去分析,报告还要包括鞋架的相片。</p>
本帖最后由 ※追風マ少年 于 2016-4-9 19:57 编辑 <br /><br /><p><font size="4">我也学机械的,我不怀疑楼主的人品,不太怀疑鉴定的结果(人家没太必要作假,而测试也是很普通的体力活儿),很怀疑刀架本来就不是7系列的。</font></p><p><font size="4">这很正常,有利润,有名头儿。</font></p><p><font size="4">当然如果楼主自曝家门,说自己也开了一个轮滑鞋厂子,那么就很值得怀疑别的了:)</font></p>
本帖最后由 ※追風マ少年 于 2016-4-9 19:57 编辑 <br /><br /><p>非常感谢相信我的人品,呵呵</p><p>我只是玩家,没有钱去开轮滑鞋厂,以后赚到钱了,或许会开个小酒吧</p><p></p>
本帖最后由 ※追風マ少年 于 2016-4-9 19:57 编辑 <br /><br />对外宣称的黑红金架子就是7000铝的,低端是6000铝,不是专业认识还真不知道!
本帖最后由 ※追風マ少年 于 2016-4-9 19:57 编辑 <br /><br /><p>牛啊!!!</p><p>看到米高需要解释一下</p>
本帖最后由 ※追風マ少年 于 2016-4-9 19:57 编辑 <br /><br /><p>嘻嘻嘻,牛人,,,</p>
本帖最后由 ※追風マ少年 于 2016-4-9 19:57 编辑 <br /><br />顶啊~数据说明问题,等待解释,哈。
本帖最后由 ※追風マ少年 于 2016-4-9 19:57 编辑 <br /><br /><p>你现在可真是闲的无聊了</p><p>鉴定费是可以报销的吧?</p>
本帖最后由 ※追風マ少年 于 2016-4-9 19:57 编辑 <br /><br /><p>楼主真强,看来SEBA要向大家解析一下,为甚么要把6000系列的铝合金硬说成7000系列的铝合金?是为了卖个好价钱?这是算不算欺骗?</p>